The only purposes of my post were to clarify that particular issue for me, and to point out what I regarded as unfortunate and unintended consequences of your lecture to ER.

I think that's a valid point for me to make.

As for "Flame" v "Community", I've always regarded Flame as the safe place for anything which can be considered even potentially controversial. While I used Flame, I don't think I flamed anyone. I certainly didn't intend to. However, I know that sometimes when I don't like the message I will complain about how it's delivered.

The net result is that ER hasn't been heard from today and TB hasn't been heard from today. I think that's a consequence of the unintended consequences.

The HZ is like a river, flowing smoothly in the middle, quiet, peaceful and amusing. There are optional rapids on the sides, always there, with some people paddling through them over and over. They bounce around, scream, splash water on others who have opted to be there, which provokes water being splashed back. And then generally everyone swirls out to the middle again for a while.

No one ever died from having water splashed on them, and generally they give as good as they get. The order to ship oars and float may be wise, may not.

Reminds me of Ma Bowser. She'd yell that if we kids didn't slow down someone was going to get hurt. And we knew SHE was what was going to hurt us.

There's no need to switch boards, I'm done. And I suspect if this did go on longer it would rapidly become appropriate for Flame anyway.