A reasonable person would see the "Conservative solutions" not as an plan to resolve a problem by compromise and mutual sacrifice, but just an attempt to cover their ass.

I've used the analogy before. You just want to make sure you've got a padded seat in the lifeboat, and the people in steerage can go down with the ship.

You seem to forget, we've been actually watching and listening to the Far Right, their press, their representatives in congress, their candidates for President, and to you. We can see what you are trying to do, and why you are convinced you are entitled to do it.

It's not conservatives as a group that I oppose, conservatives have much to contribute. And heaven knows liberals have their own problems and errors. Its the brand of conservative extremism YOU represent TB, and the conservatism you come here to the Zone to sell. It is toxic and pathological.

And no, I don't want to discuss it with you, because you never meet me or anyone else half way. Yes, it IS your way or the highway. So take a walk.