Maybe sarcasm is not the proper term for my comment, but it was based on the recurring theme in all the recent posts on this subject. Mordant perhaps?

There will always be peckerheads and they aren't consulting my conservative ass either. They also are not shooting at the government. In fact they aren't shooting anyone. They are just hanging out and looking silly.

The idea of a free state is what the majority perceives, not what they perceive. The guns are there to keep the government honest.

To say there is no way to win the argument is not an absolute declaration. It is simply based on the fact that the amendment is too ambiguous to interpret for either side and both side are dug in.

If support for change gets strong enough change will happen, not based on winning an argument, but based on popular support. Until the popular support is there all you will have is jawboning.