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I bet it works, but so what?

Sure, if children are only born into homes where they are wanted and cherished and where the parents are well able to take care of them, OF COURSE those kids that remain will be less likely to be involved in anti-social behavior.

But that's rigging the game, isn't it? Its like saying that its better that all people, young or old, be given no medical care of any kind so that the survivors will(by definition) be naturally stronger and be healthier. Natural selection, eh?

When I was growing up there used to be talk of providing and encouraging free legal abortions and contraception to black folks so they could wait until they were more able financially to raise kids. It was all couched in very benign terms of course, as a way of helping Negroes to advance themselves economically, and to save black youngsters from a deprived and substandard existence. The Black Panthers immediately picked up on this as a plot to make the race problem go away by culling blacks right out of existence. And they were absolutely right.

People who thought it was a sin for white folks to have abortions or use contraception so they could further their careers or to enjoy a promiscuous lifestyle didn't seem to have any problem accepting it if the result was less black people in the population.

In the nineteenth century, the Spanish Crown encouraged (and even forced) emigration of whites to Cuba from the mother country because they felt that the Negro population was getting proportionally too big. They called it avanzando la raza, "advancing the race". You see, the French had just had a little slave revolt in Haiti--and they lost. Its the same mentality at work.

For any of these eugenics schemes to work, the killing must be ordered by some higher authority, under criteria dictated by that authority, in order to ensure some social result the authority desires. The rights of the parents are ignored. But what about the rights of the foetus? That's easy, the foetus has no rights.

Personally, I believe an embryo is not a person. It is a pile of cells with no rights or humanity or consciousness. But the parents have rights and humanity and consciousness and no one has the right to force them to terminate a pregnancy--any more than anyone has a right to force them to carry the child to term.

I don't have any religious beliefs. I don't believe there is any such thing as a soul. No one has the right to force their religion on me. If someone does not believe in abortion, for whatever reason, fine; they don't have to get one.

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