I suppose it didn't look that way to me because I didn't see a knockout blow, she just seemed to handle herself OK. As for Trump, he gets away with so much buffoonery, and his cultists are so eager to back him up no matter what nonsense he's pushing, I suppose I didn't realize that is finally starting to get old with some of his backers.

I mean, Ohio Haitians eating pets...even stuff like that is starting to become unsurprising any more.

I noticed there were lots of places where he could have been blown away with a simple put-down, but I guess she had been coached not to get into any shouting matches with him--and her coaches certainly made the right call!

Still, it doesn't matter WHO 'won' but how it is PERCEIVED who was the winner. And THAT is using the Right's tactics against them for a change. They have lost control of the narrative.