Not OBL. Not ridding the place of the Taliban. Not an honest democracy. Not even an honest dictatorship.

This is not a wise-ass question. I really can't think of a legitimate reason.

The Afghanis don't want us, the only folks who want us are the politicians who would be thrown out.

I'm not claiming there has been any sort of a victory. Even Karzai's personal bodyguard is still foreign. What I am saying is that Bush could have pulled out before he left office with the identical result as now. We still would have gotten OBL.

I don't know why we are there. Obama should at least make that clear in some terms besides "democracy", "freedom". Even "oil" would be better than nothing.