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Hmmm, it's wrong, it's primarily bull, it's opinion masquerading as news (most real news outlets mark OPINION in big letters at the top).

Some random specifics?
"His casual reference may well prove to be one of the brightest foreign policy statements of President Bush's administration. "
LOLOLOL. Never mind helping to ensure German and French opposition.

"This new race is not yet in absolute control, but it should be recognized that a majority of Europeans has become accustomed to government guidance, in preference to market motivation."
Yeah, that's why Germany's economy was about the best in the world before they took on the eastern basket case.

"Socialism in its most comprehensively pure form, communism, lived on in Eastern Europe and in the Soviet Union. In Germany, France and elsewhere, academics and intellectuals copied the softer elements of this hard-core socialism, firmly establishing this ideology in schools, universities and media throughout virtually all of Europe."
Did you write this bit ;-)

"Within Europe, however, individuals and communities are effectively coerced into becoming captives of an opaque, immovable, unapproachable system. Although each European pays $250 a year in taxes to Brussels, it has all happened without a vote, neither for the scope and method of government nor for a constitution (which is still far from being agreed). With the exception of three countries where voters were finally asked, the same goes for the euro, the new currency."

Dumb, dumber, and plain wrong.
Is there waaay too much bureaucracy? Yup. Does that make it an opaque, immovable, unapproachable system? Nope.
I never voted for the UK system of government either and paid a darn sight more than $250 a year for it. I also managed to live quite happily in a country without a constitution.
Three countries which stayed out of the Euro - Sweden (will have vote in September), Denmark (voted no), UK (opted out). Hey one out of three ain't bad. Doesn't mention the countries that did in fact have a vote and voted yes.

"Market forces have motivated companies and municipalities to form economic and trade alliances."
Umm, doesn't the rest of the article say this is impossible? Would this have been at all likely or possible without the European free-trade zone and "borderless" countries?

"Scientists, businessmen and politicians are supporting these new regions. Where it is happening, esprit de corps, increasing productivity and greater overall dedication to one's work follows."
Doesn't mention how many of the areas may be earmarked as European Development Zones (i.e. big-time EU subsidies)

"National resistance to EU demands has succeeded in several instances."
Shock, Horror! Europeans are not mindless sheep as indicated in the rest of the article.

"Ireland has moved from the lowest to the top layer in productivity, largely because of its resolute refusal to raise tax rates to the EU's strangulating levels, saving the average Irish worker 8 percent in taxes versus his continental counterpart."
Great Googaly-moogaly. Largely because for the past two decades Ireland has benefited greatly from a bottomless pit of EU subsidies since it was one of the poorest countries in the area. Why else do you think they initially voted Noto letting other poor countries join in?

{irrelevant fluff piece about Switzerland}
Try setting up business there if you're not Swiss.........

"French history books mention Omaha Beach in a single paragraph, "
The authors manged to read all of them?
If I take a random school-age history book of America I'd expect WW2 to get a chapter and D-Day maybe a page at most. Can someone who has a book check?

Oh, let's skip to the end already..
"Perhaps the most significant development would be development of ad hoc commercial associations among the New Europe nations identified by Rumsfeld. These could include Polish, Czech, and Hungarian members of the former East bloc, plus one or more of Britain, Spain and Italy."
They could. And if they ignore two of the largest economies in the world which sit right on their doorstep due to ideology they will fail miserably.

"However, given one or more of these developments, it is possible to envision the Eurosocialists in Brussels, Strasbourg, Paris and Berlin finally giving way to realism and favoring economic over political union in Europe. "
Let me give a different lesson here. During the 70s and 80 and even early 90s, the political will of Europe was to move ever closer, especially in terms of economic issues. The economic union happened - hence the Euro, European Central Bank, etc. The political union has been bandied about by politicians of various blends - most prominently by Kohl and Mitterand - but has never caught on in the populace. It likely never will given the dinstinct and disparate languages, cultures and history of it's makeup.

In short, a pretty awful, fallacy ridden, inconsitent article.

Cheers,
Tony

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