A lie is still a lie no matter how many times you repeat it
and facts are facts - On the subject of spewing, Gary -
I provided you with multiple URLs to the manned Mars design efforts which took place at Lewis and which Goldin worked on. I don't have time to dig them up again for you personally - and I expect from you a copy of that manned Mars ship model for my desk for the time I've spent on this with you so far.
Goldin also spoke about his work on Viking - if you want more information on his work on it, order copies of the tapes frrom the symposium organizers, as obviously my telling you what it was would make no difference...
EP