yeah, Mark, they sure do...

the problem is that there isn't any problem, except for one manufactured by Keith. Note how soon our very own Space Frontier Foundation idiot showed up here to respond to my points - There has to be latin phrase for the case where the refutation proves the argument, but the only one I can come up with is Demostratio Stupidissiumum...

Islamic fundamentalism is to Islam as Inquisition is to Christianity, and aside from the attacks, I'm tired of housing all the folks running away from it.

As to why Keith is attacking Zubrin, you have to answer that question for yourself... My guess is that its another power grab by Tumlinson... Mars Odyssey is set to orbit, and undoubtedly Keith wants to use the event for another chance to attack Goldin, and doesn't want that message lost in
Zubrin's remarks...

EP