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SDAI:"Unfortunately, the view of these scientists is rather limited. The solar flare process, the solar magnetosphere and the ever spinning sun are complete mysteries to them.

Our earth and the planets spin by the force of our rotation with the sun's immense field. But what spins the sun?

Fusion? "


R.L.: Alrite, did you even take grade school physics, or LSD instead? The sun spins because of conservation of angular momenta...


That doesn't explain why it started spinning in the first place. But let's just assume this is correct. With the arrival and formation of planets in tow for millions of years, don't you think conservation of angular momentum of the sun would deviate from its formerly closed system and such rotation would have ceased by now?

SDAI:"How exactly does one create a regular rotation of matter through fusion? How does the containment of this fusion ball work? Why is it so darned stable? How on earth is the fusion of atoms kept so mechanically perfect?

And why do we not see a natural chain reaction? "


R.L.:you dont seem to know the difference between fusion and fission! the fusion in the stars is, at least until they reach a certain age, self moderating- the weight of the star presses in - fusion occurs, fusion increases until the pressure outward balances the pressure inward


What? There's a difference between fusion and fission!? Really? Whoa! Thanks!

Most fusion reactions are chains and the proton-proton chain releases neutrinos, positrons, and gamma ray photons. The assumption that the gravity of mass itself contains the fusion reaction is one of the oldest solar copouts to be regularly dished out. To contain a fusion reaction by gravity alone would require the fusing mass to start out the size of a small planet. How a small planet's worth of hydrogen collected in space and started fusing is completely inexplicable without the vortex model to gather it together and apply some sort of tremendous energy transfer.

The cycle of a star has been described and hypothesized, but the theory that says the sun self-regulates its fusing mass and then somehow loses control because of a shortage of fusing material seems to stretch credulity. Yes, that may be the accepted best guess but I want to know why the first hydrogen atoms started to fuse, what was the source of the pressure which caused the fusion and why it stabilizes into a controlled fuse.

Nobody has these answers and like the formation of the solar system or the universe itself they enter into that big grey area which is filled to overflowing with thousands of postulates and conceptualizations and no hard data.

"Our reactors all work on the basis of chain reaction nuclear effects and we use cadmium control rods to intercept neutrons and keep it from growing critical and out of control.

Since the sun is assumed to be a fusing ball of hydrogen gas - we must assume that the sun initiated a chain reaction at some point to increase in strength and size. How did it suddenly control its chain reaction?

This is the problem with the fusion theory - it cannot be effectively and realistically explained."



R.L. No, the problem is you are not mentally equipped to understand it!

SNIP the hallucanatory vortex nonsense

Really Sdai- I really hope you were joking!


Hans Bethe did his homework as good as the emerging science of nucleonics would let him in 1949. Certainly, the fusion furnace theory is one heckuva alot better than Apollo's flaming chariot. IMHO - it still has lots of holes, however - holes which need to be plugged.

Hydrogen just doesn't spontaneously fuse - even when you gather a planet sized amount of it. Some force triggered that fusion and created and focused a tremendous amount of energy on those atoms. I think that force is spawned by the vortical flow of energy in the spiral galaxy arms which transfers enormous amounts of energy via these huge motions and creates tension points along the arms where this energy finds release.

These galaxy motions then form the simplest hydrogen atoms and subsequently fuse them at these pressure points to form stars. The stars then have at their core a focal point - a transfer point for tremendous energy to be unleashed in a regulated manner.

I suspect the core of all planets is a similar focal point for the transfer of energy from the suns rotating field.

This may sound like drivel to you, and that's fine - but to me it is all very logical and a lot more appealing than the "pieces of the sun drifted away to form planets" theory which seems far less scientific, especially when one knows that the fusing sun was somehow regulated and self containing.

If these are hallucinations - I'll just have to make the best of them.

;-)

Regards,

SDAI-Tech1

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