No good will come from that founded on deceit, lies, greed and revenge.

And you are absolutely correct - whatever GWB, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz, et al. do in Iraq, it's wrong.

Dead wrong for over 800 Americans, as a matter of fact.

And nothing they do from here on out will be right. Can't be right. Too many people dead. Too much money wasted. Too much credibility lost. Too many enemies made, terrorists spawned.

Some things have no good coming from them. Sort of like a car wreck which kills people - where's the good?

And you have defined a quagmire - "no matter what we do in Iraq, it's wrong." For once I have to agree with you wholeheartedly!

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