In a very poor translation from "Der Speigel" Abu Ghraib under the Americans is described the same way as the US saw the MVD prison in Moscow, or Gestapo prisons, or Abu Ghraib itself before the invasion.

I suspect Cheney/bush would say it's only one little section of that prison. They are going to have to start giving up on the idea that it was only a few rogue guards who abused. The evidence is stacking up that the abuse goes to the top, the cover-up is starting to crumble.

"In addition the TV magazine reported of references and testimonies, according to which US soldiers in Iraqi prisons abused also children and young people. Samuel Provance, an NCO stationed in the notorious torture prison Abu Ghreib, said, specialistspecialist specialists would have pressed 15 to 16 years an old girl in their cell. Military police intervened only, when it was already half undressed. Another time was driven a 16-Jaehriger with water ueberschuettet, by cold weather and beschmiert afterwards with mud."

"Oh what gift the genie gi'e us but to see ourselves as others see us."

Arf