Doug said:

"I'm almost glad of the HZ - it's considered 'serious' enough by the loons to rank as a proper venting of their nonsense, yet is considered stupid enough to be considered a safe place for that nonsense to be vented by those less stupid. Sort of like a storm drain of stupidity - it leaves the rest of us at a lower risk of flooding - Alex's forum is a veritable nirvana of intelligent discussion and friendly banter - and I'd like to think the visitors to my forum might think the same. "

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Alex's forum is a better place because he doesn't admit the obvious loons and throws out people who misbehave. However Alex's forum is private and mainly for scientific discussion. Habitable Zone Space Exploration does receive a lot of attention from Google and the MSM. Consequenlty Habitable Zone has some political impact. This is the main reason why it is still useful for posting at despite the presence of trolls and lunatics. My concern about Habitable Zone is it will soon be de-listed by Google. One need only take a quick look at the index of Habitable Zone Space Exploration to see how badly Uncle Eddy has manured it. It is nonsense that because Uncle Eddy is the Habitable Zone's village idiot, he is immune from banning. He's sabotaging the Zone and driving out civil and rational people. Soon Habitable Zone will be designated as just another nut website by Google. Uncle Eddy needs to leave.

Gary