What does it take. Bush is a documented liar, had no legitimate basis for going to an illegal war against a third-world country, and is not doing what Saddam did, trying to prevent a civil war?

When will you admit that at the time Saddam gassed Kurds Cheney and Rumsfeld were on Saddam's side, and that going back 14 years to avenge a crime in which the US was complicit is complete bullshit?

Will neocons ever develop morally to the point they can regret slaughtering innocent people in an attempt to rectify the slaughter of innocent people?

Will neocons ever admit that torture has done more harm to America in terms of creating hatred and terrorists than it could ever have prevented?

That's just the very, very obvious, the easy ones. There are more, but these are for starters. 'Cause they are so easy.

Arf (We've discussed this, Bow. Just want to make it plain. It is plain, Bow.)