Thanks, Techmeister, but politics really isn't my thing any more. It hasn't been for years. I'm damn near 60 and playing Angry Young Man isn't my idea of a good time at all. It's like pro wrestling for people with crew cuts and skinny ties. All those earnest young lads with that messianic glow in their eyes. Ugh. It makes my flesh crawl. I had fun playing with you and Tom but I'm running out of fresh things to say; I've had all these arguments already, 20 years ago, that''s why I'm so good at it. And you know nobody ever changes their mind: I've already read a half dozen answers to my posts that convince me that the responders never even finished reading what I had to say. Sure, I still go with the lefty politics, but I'd rather talk about science, art, philosophy or even religion. That way I get to piss off liberals, too. Keep in touch, and take care. And if we ever meet I'll buy you a drink.