Our more militant (and obviously gullible) members have often stated that Vietnam was winnable and it was the fracturing of support in the country that prevented that goal. Don't think you're going to get any converts out of them even if and when Iraq falls into even worse chaos and we're forced out with our tails between our legs and many more dead and wounded. They'll simply say that it was the country's fault for not fully supporting the mission.

I've been beaten up many times for comparing the two conflicts and I've learned to just laugh at the inanity of it all. The laughing generally stops though when my head clears and I see my two sons approaching draft age.

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