Thanks for an SDAI post I can almost understand. Let me check. You are referring to "order", following the laws of physics as fn example, as "intelligence". Two hydrogen atoms positioning themselves at a 105 degree angle on an oxygen atom would be an example of intelligence.

I believe I can understand how one could stretch the idea of "intelligence" that far. Makes some sense.

As for me, when I refer to "intelligence" I'm including a prerequisite what you can "sentience", and emotional component. Since emotions boild down to "am I safe or not" I would think for my definition that intelligence would require a sense of self and an ability to sense ones surroundings.

Where my version breaks down is where I agree an ant is smarter than hell, and that an ant is a collection of atoms which have followed DNA marching orders and turned into an ant. Or that my DNA, carefully nurtured and groomed, as turned into me (obviously an intelligent organism).

You've given me something to ponder - thanks a lot.