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Great point Tony.

Hey, maybe the guys that flew the planes into the buildings said something like that to their loved ones before they headed to America. "We'll fly planes into buildings over there so we don't have to fly them into our own buildings."

Imagine how we'd feel if an invading force used lines like that in justifying the occupation of our country. I'd have bagged me quite a few of them by now.

Art

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