Hey, I know we'll never agree on the topic of ufos, but you could have at least been kind enough to continue the debate without derogatorily putting me down and lumping me in with all the idiots. Because whatever your beliefs, your truths are,... you shouldn't belittle others or make a spectacle of them (unless of course it's Flame, however our Fire Hoses are well worn there.) I don't mind the debate, I DO mind the "slurs", and both you and ER are guilty of them.

Not that I let you get away with them, though.....;~)

I am a direct eye witness of a close encounter along with three other neighbours in an area that was rife with sightings, and I have experienced a crop circle pretty close to my back yard. I've been in them. I investigate them, and I work with top researchers in the field. That gives me an edge to MY beliefs, my truths, and when you make fun of me, I know you are grandstanding and hoping to shut me down; when I come from a base of knowledge from professional doctors, scientists, engineers and field invetigators who look at this seriously every which way from Sunday. They treat the subject with curiosity instead of smarmy remarks.

I have no beef with either of you, nor do I harbor any animosity, as long as you are courteous to me. I wanted ER back here, and I am glad to have him back. I think I did the lions' share to woo him in. I am not all that bad. Besides, the paranormal is only about 10% of what I discuss, if that.