So, with respect to some here who have earned it from me.

I freely admit being oversensitive to this subject, but the discussion had become polorized to the point my teeth could stand no more gritting. I should have kept hitting the wall instead of saying anyhting. It isn't an intelectual excercise, it's human lives, I watched way to many good people fall into the abyss.

I also admit that I almost always avoid this subject for those two reasons.

And; matters have arisen IRL that demand my full attention for a while.

Which means I will not be able to respond as I should.

Which is why I should have just STHU, I had a good idea it was coming. Now it's here and I have to deal with what's more important.