Arguments have nowhere to go without axioms. Logic is more fundamental than arguments- its about the preservation of truth. In other words, the mechanisms of deterministic reasoning is separable from the content.

and then there is inductive logic.

And sorry to break it to you, but for the most part all societies are made up as they go along. Very little is immutable from one century to the next- except that individual humans need groups, and groups need individual humans. But everything else is 'details'. Now, my values entail freedom, individualism, rationalism and liberty as inviolable- things I would give my life for.

But just because I give these things such meaning, doesn't mean that I'm vain enough to call them fundamentally true for all humans, or human society, or nature or etc.

And not much in the way of human thought can't be thought of as a tool. While I agree with you, its not a special observation about logic, math or poetry for that matter.

Yeti