And debt and corruption and incompetence. Precedent for all of them.
And there is no doubt that Nader is correct - there is little difference on a grand scale between the two parties. Both are beholden to the larger financial interests, including drug and military. The trends are the same with both.
And the scale of the last 8 years has been dizzying. No one has left the country with the debt, the massive bureaucracy, the devastated military as Bush is leaving Obama.
With the Conservatives complaining that "entitlements" are the problem.