re: The Moon-Mars debate
There is no debate. It ain't gonna happen. They had their chance. It's over.
It's time to let the NEO, Phobos and Deimos, mid sized asteroid and Ceres people try their luck, and these people are smart enough to know that these kinds of operations require 1) propulsion 2) Earth to orbit transportation 3) long duration spaceflight in LEO and 4) large well equipped spacecraft with very good shielding.
Care to debate? I always love debating delusional moon-Mars people.
