"And you guys ain't been right yet. A person would have to be nuts, completely stark, raving mad, to start believing you now. Trust is accuracy over time. Get it? I don't know how anyone could be so wrong for so long and still present themselves in polite company. "

Bowers, I am not looking for followers. I am looking for a rational debate/discussion. Not getting much from you.

As for "being right". I find that Tom provides better information than almost anyone else on this board. His competition for being the best in this regard, is not being in any way being challenged by you. And I think most people on this board even those who might dislike Tom, would agree about this particular aspect.

"Go drag out some Iraqi nukes, or WMDs, maybe explain how Enron wasn't manipulating energy prices and come back. Until then it's possible that some skeptical people who unreasonably identify with their ability to reason could consider your opinions as bullshit. Unreasoned, a spewing of the party line. Get it? By masquerading as reality, a predetermined answer to all problems no matter what cause."

Well, Mary Anne is right about the talking in tongues aspect. Who can argue about that?