Europe.
We can shoot anecdotes back and forth for weeks. It's interesting that when I do post statistical information, nobody reads it.
It's also interesting that nobody looks at this from the essential standpoint of individual liberty and choice. Lions, for example, live much longer and healthier lives in zoos, with food, health care, and mates provided. Completely dependent on their keepers.
It's obvious that the people in government pushing this thing are far more interested in gaining control of the health care system than in what kind of care such a system would actually deliver.
