You spend a couple of years dealing with the IRS, local zoning office, or anything where you have to get a licence to do something, and then tell me who generates the most bureaucratic crap and sheer arrogance in our society.

The problem on this board is that the people who want the government running everything are apparently working with some imaginary government that exists only in their heads. Kind of like the one they voted for last fall, with all the unicorns and changey-hopey things.

The real government spends twice as much on everything it does than the private sector, and is famous for inefficiency, waste, fraud, political corruption, and abuse of taxpayer funds. All this has been true under other presidents, Democrat and Republican, and not to rub anyone's nose in it, but guess what, most of it is worse under this one.

Do you buy hammers from Home Depot or the Defense Department? What if you HAD to buy hammers from defense contractors?