By the way, Mark, every once in while Mars is hit by Coronal Mass Ejections, which will completely, that is COMPLETELY, kill most if not all life on the surface - Mars can not be terra-formed, and thus there is little incentive for manned flight.

While an object of scientiific interest, it's like Val Kilmer said in Mission to Mars: "Fuck this planet."

By the way, did I mention that you people are a pack of fascists? I think I mentioned my role as heckler at a Nuremburg rally before.

After this Zubrin, Tumlinson, Cowing crap is done, somebody's going to have to pick up the pieces of the US space program -

EP