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Tom, we know your methods. We've learned to recognize your little sneaker posts when you're prepping us for the latest Conservative outrage. You are preemptively testing the waters because this is going to be a very big deal with upcoming court challenges as we get near the elections. This won't mean much for the electoral college, but it will be very effective in local and congressional elections.

Half the people in my neighborhood will be affected. If they don't drive, and many don't because of age, infirmity or because they don't own a car, they are going to have to find a way to go somewhere and get a valid photo ID made. Many of these people rarely leave the house. They often have to be driven by party volunteers to the polls just to vote. And most are on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, or some form of government assistance. They are not voting for your lot.

Don't be coy, Tommy. You know exactly how this will work to keep Democrats out of the polls. People who have lost their driver's licenses, or never had one, will have to find a way to get this errand done, during working hours, at their expense. And they just won't be able to hop in the car and go to the DMV and spend all day in line getting it done, either. Maybe they've got DUIs or no car insurance, but they are still entitled to vote. These will be disproportionately black, poor, or hispanic, precisely the demographics you'd like to keep away from the polls. In fact,that is exactly what you're counting on, that many of these folks won't bother to go to the trouble. Republicans have always counted on Democrats not voting, it means they deserve to be bullied.

Now, you tell me specifically what studies or surveys have shown that a photo ID law, at the state level, would keep voter fraud down. Where or when has this type of multiple or false identity bunko ever been a problem (as opposed to the much more efficient stuffing of ballot boxes, tampering with voting machines, losing ballots, or shutting down the polls prematurely so working people who can't take time off can't vote).

Democrats know these proposed laws will cost them votes, that's why they oppose them. Republicans, however, tell us this is not what motivates them at all. They have to make up fairy tales about voter fraud, or Mexicans voting, or some other such nonsense. The fact remains, democracy works best when the franchise is as wide and as deep as possible.The more people vote, the more the election will convey the will of the people. Not just the nice people. All the people.

The fact this is happening in GOP states and led by movements in GOP legislatures tells me this is a GOP conspiracy, no one else will benefit from it. The fact you're already running interference for it only confirms it. Don't insult our intelligence, Tom. U Peeple don't pull this kind of crap without a very good reason.

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