The one that seperates freedon and security. It sometimes gets moved with political winds .
Tom made some very important points

but I still think we are safest in the long run if we err on the side of freedom



in that the shackles on our law enforcement system help protect our individual rights



The long view has been the best bet for us. We wouldn't be having this conversation if that wasn't true.

Dan is right on with his comment We just need to take each case slow and deliberate, and the snatch should only occur if the physical evidence gathered supports an actual crime. Pulling me over on an entrance ramp just because my car’s speedometer goes up to 100 mph is bogus. In this country, potential threats are not illegal.



Still no easy answers, Dan



That is what has added the checks to government powers over us all these 226 years.