Yeah, but when did "democracy" come to mean colonial deals for US firms?

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E.P. Grondine — 10/31/2004 7:43:37 AM (archived)

We're supposed to be anti-colonialist, it's our founding principle, and when we go against it, it has inevitably ultimately come back to screw us, ultimately and inevitably.

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Fallujah - Tom Brosz - 10/31/2004 3:57:55 AM
- "It became necessary to destroy the town to save it." - Bowser - 10/31/2004 5:24:13 AM
  - It may become necessary to conquer Falujah in order to save Iraq from the Ba'athists. In doing so, people are going to get killed. That is war. The stakes are high: Transition to democracy or return… (n/t) - David F Mayer - 10/31/2004 6:18:27 AM
    - Yeah, but when did "democracy" come to mean colonial deals for US firms? - E.P. Grondine - 10/31/2004 7:43:37 AM
  - Why do you go to all the work? - Tom Brosz - 10/31/2004 5:37:28 AM
    - A sense of fairness, justice, morality. A dislike of cruelty, killing innocents. - Bowser - 10/31/2004 5:51:11 AM
      - "My cruelty will be bigger than your cruelty, and i will kill more of your innocents in revenge"............. - Lindy - 10/31/2004 4:04:38 PM
      - All the defining characteristics of those we are fighting. Try harder. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/31/2004 5:57:03 AM
        
        Please note. The US is OVER THERE, KILLING THEM, as the result of illegal aggression. - Bowser - 10/31/2004 3:51:28 PM
        
        You Definitely Just Spout The Party Line Whether It's A Lie Or Not - Mark Eby - 10/31/2004 4:19:32 PM
        
        The US isn't over there killing 'em? And the UN sanctioned the invasion? - Bowser - 10/31/2004 7:22:27 PM
        
        UN Resolution 1441, Just Keep Swimming In Ignorance (n/t) - Mark Eby - 10/31/2004 8:04:43 PM
        
        That's not how the UN reads it, how Bush read it, how Powell read it. And not how ROW read it. - Bowser - 10/31/2004 10:12:57 PM
        
        Some Other Follow-up - Mark Eby - 10/31/2004 11:02:07 PM
        
        Read It Yourself - Then Just Keep Lieing To Stay Happy (n/t) - Mark Eby - 10/31/2004 10:43:27 PM
        
        That is, of course, "cruelty, killing innocents, robbery, fraud, corruption, torture." - Tom Brosz - 10/31/2004 5:59:53 AM
        
        re: In Bowser's world American Soldiers are committing war crimes at every opportunity. - Scott Evil - 11/1/2004 9:33:39 PM

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