Wrong, and wrong.

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Wrong, and wrong.

Daniel — 11/5/2004 5:34:19 AM (archived)

A clone of Mozart would very likely have a lot of musical talent

As I've been saying: BULLSHIT. Musical talent is not only a function of genetics, but of environment and upbringing.

As for the insult part, I was insulting the stupid belief in DNA-determinism, and NOT you personally. If I were to insult you personally, the difference would be obvious. I have NO opinion of your intelligence one way or the other, Buck - only of that belief in DNA-determinism. I really am sorry if you misinterpreted that. I think you need to understand that a polemic is not necessarily personal.

Daniel

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The mega rock star of the near future: Mozart's clone - Buck Galaxy - 11/4/2004 6:06:32 PM
- believing that character and personality can be recreated from DNA alone, is sheer ignorant stupidity - Daniel - 11/4/2004 6:14:25 PM
  - Anyone with kids knows that at least some personality traits they are born with. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/5/2004 7:07:14 PM
    - I'm suprised that you haven't read me properly - Daniel - 11/5/2004 7:25:51 PM
      - I guess even further clarification could be necessary - - Daniel - 11/5/2004 7:32:50 PM
        
        Murphy's Law of the HZ - LJ - 11/5/2004 9:15:53 PM
        
        Well, I will interpret Tom's absence of reply as complete acquiescence to my point of view - daniel - 11/6/2004 6:07:08 AM
        
        Genetic Mozart - Tom Brosz - 11/6/2004 8:08:18 PM
        
        Well, in that case, even if there was a point there .. - Daniel - 11/7/2004 5:29:14 AM
        
        Eugenics mentality - Tom Brosz - 11/7/2004 7:08:40 AM
        
        Ok, so then I take it you agree with me, essentially - Daniel - 11/9/2004 3:24:44 PM
        
        All the more reason for us to bring some order to this duct tape masterpiece known has Humanity. - Lee - 11/9/2004 12:54:40 AM
        
        Maybe so, but... - Tom Brosz - 11/9/2004 9:27:40 AM
        
        It will be taken slow, but the step will be taken - Lee - 11/9/2004 11:24:53 PM
        
        Love your analogy, Tom! Perfect! (n/t) - LJ - 11/9/2004 11:16:46 PM
        
        I'm out of the loop till Tuesday - will read Scopes then (n/t) - Daniel - 11/8/2004 7:05:17 AM
  - I didn't say "character and personality can be recreated" - Buck Galaxy - 11/5/2004 4:22:29 AM
    - Creativity is a function of CHARACTER and PERSONALITY, which is in the very least, PARTIALLY determined by upbringing and environment - Daniel - 11/5/2004 4:41:23 AM
      - re: Creativity is a function of CHARACTER and PERSONALITY, which is in the very least, PARTIALLY determined by upbringing and environment - Buck Galaxy - 11/5/2004 5:12:18 AM
        
        Wrong, and wrong. - Daniel - 11/5/2004 5:34:19 AM
        
        re: Wrong, and wrong. - Buck Galaxy - 11/6/2004 10:24:04 PM
        
        I don't advocate Skinner - just a proper balance between genetics and environment - Daniel - 11/7/2004 5:48:20 AM
    - Creativity and intelligence are developed. They are not ONLY a function of inheritance. It is stupid to think that you can recreate a Mozart just by cloning his DNA. (n/t) - Daniel - 11/5/2004 4:38:51 AM
  - Character traits seem to be genetically based - Lee - 11/5/2004 1:25:13 AM
  - Did you see the Boys from Brazil? (n/t) - alcaray - 11/4/2004 6:54:16 PM

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