Flame — HabitableZone

Flame » in reply to re: The Violence Thing.

What I think is going on.

Other than your underlying violent tendencies, what I think is going on is that a bunch of geologists running this mission, particularly Hap McSween and Steve Squyres, are dismissing the biological hypothesis out of hand, without attempting to falsify it, contrary to the expectations of modern scientific methods. I think they did it with the fundamental premise of water on Mars, and now I think they are doing it with the fundamental premise of life on Mars. I think geological models of Mars have grossly underestimated the amount of water on Mars, and astrobiological models of evolution have grossly underestimated the propensity of life in extreme and unusual environments, based upon what I have observed in the historical evolution of our scientific understanding of the universe.

Furthermore, I observe that scientific creativity has been well documented to have been severely persecuted throughout history, and I see very little in current scientific methods, and the response to new scientific theories, to make me believe that persecution does not continue today. Case in point - MER.

For instance : global warming, life on other planets, ets, ufos, etc.

Scientific methods must evolve as our understanding of the universe evolves, and if I that I am seeing recurring structural anomalies in the rocks and terrains that might be fossils, and I have a model of Mars and the universe that indicates to me that fossilized life might be a possibility, then I expect that hypothesis to be attempted to be falsified by further examination, rather to be dismissed out of hand.

The search for water on Mars is over. It's time to take it to the next step. We have two fully functioning rovers on the surface of Mars, I expect them to be pressed into immediate service in the quest for evidence of life on Mars.

If those rovers can demonstrate to me that the numerous and pervasive widespread structural anomalies that I am observing right now on the surface of Mars are indeed fortuotous circumstances of erosion and water alteration, than I am willing to accept that, but until that occurs, life and fossils on Mars are definitely still on my workbench.

I'm sure you have other medieval ideas about how you think science should work.

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