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Read the scientific papers, not the journalism.

ER — 5/19/2013 9:39:06 PM (archived)

The specialists studying this have gone way out of their way to be as conservative in their conclusions as possible, especially since they know the denialists are parsing every syllable tying to find the "Gotcha".

Even the IPCC, that UN bastion of Socialist skulduggery and statist lies, has woefully underestimated its projections of Arctic ice.

http://www.theclimatehub.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/observed-arctic-sea-ice-loss-vs-ipcc-projections1.jpg

And don't forget, that 2007 record was smashed in 2012.

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Continuing CO2 drumbeat. - RobVG - 5/19/2013 6:53:35 PM
- Here is how: - alcaray - 5/20/2013 2:46:58 AM
  - Furthermore... - alcaray - 5/20/2013 2:54:10 AM
    - Or, an even more direct way to measure the rate of change. - alcaray - 5/20/2013 5:20:26 AM
      - I'll give you that. - RobVG - 5/20/2013 2:28:02 PM
        
        Well at least that's something that honorable men may dispute. - alcaray - 5/20/2013 8:05:25 PM
        
        It's a hoot watching you guys wrangle over this... - ER - 5/20/2013 3:40:10 PM
        
        Suggested reading for Rob and others: - TB - 5/20/2013 4:13:51 PM
        
        The obvious answer is to create an internnational star committee... - FrankC - 5/21/2013 1:50:02 AM
        
        I'm dying to hear the libertarian proposal to solve the problem. - alcaray - 5/21/2013 12:57:01 AM
        
        Repeating: - TB - 5/21/2013 1:51:43 AM
        
        Errr, that's not what I asked at all. - alcaray - 5/21/2013 2:01:36 AM
        
        The libertarians don't believe there is a problem. - ER - 5/21/2013 1:06:03 AM
        
        It sounds to me like Hansen's right on. - ER - 5/20/2013 5:29:18 PM
- The CO2 is increasing. - ER - 5/19/2013 7:33:15 PM
  - I'm not saying it isn't. - RobVG - 5/19/2013 8:49:37 PM
    - In that case, then you're absolutely correct. - ER - 5/19/2013 9:06:36 PM
      - You're putting words in my mouth. - RobVG - 5/19/2013 9:32:51 PM
        
        Consequences - TB - 5/19/2013 11:07:08 PM
        
        n/t - ER - 5/19/2013 11:08:59 PM
        
        Read the scientific papers, not the journalism. - ER - 5/19/2013 9:39:06 PM
        
        Here's one: - TB - 5/20/2013 3:22:43 AM
        
        Here's one what? - ER - 5/20/2013 4:39:29 AM
        
        Okay. - TB - 5/20/2013 5:30:21 AM
        
        Next time I'm down at the Earth Science Library, I'll look this up - podrock - 5/21/2013 3:07:27 AM
        
        You brought up ice cores, not me. - ER - 5/20/2013 5:55:18 AM
        
        Don't bother. - TB - 5/20/2013 3:37:09 PM
        
        I don't recall ever quoting any ice-core data. - ER - 5/20/2013 4:01:43 PM
        
        Sorry, wasn't clear. - TB - 5/20/2013 4:24:43 PM
        
        "His methods are the equivalent of ice core data for sea ice extent", - ER - 5/20/2013 7:05:13 PM
        
        I'm not interested in the last 1500 years. - ER - 5/20/2013 5:40:23 PM

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