Okay, a bit more slowly. The first graph clearly implies to the average observer that pretty much nothing at all happened to temperature levels until recently. I have seen other graphs like this that, like the CO2 graph, are just a single red line with the sharp upward curve at the end.

The other one shows that, while temperatures are still measurably up at the end of the graph, the real picture is a lot more complex.

I can "dress" data any way I like. That's part of the game.

As I've said elsewhere, for everyone like you and R.L. who are primarily selling the science end of this, I can find six "climate experts" carrying about four tons of political baggage on this issue. If you're going to watch like a hawk for "special industrial interests" promoting certain papers and ideas, you had better watch the other end as well.

A good touchstone is to ask someone, "okay, temperatures are going up, and it's the CO2. Now what?" Sit back and enjoy.

R.L. talks about nuclear power, and other fixes. I've got no problem with R.L.'s solutions. Hell, we need to go to alternative power eventually CO2 or no CO2.

But those in the U.N. and elsewhere who promoted Kyoto had, as their main goal, bringing the U.S. and the West to its knees, preferably sucking a few trillion dollars out of us along the way. Look for the key words "we can't fix this with technology," a phrase I've been hearing from leftists since college.