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No, it isn't that simple.

You just don't want to deal with the complexities.

You don't know shit about the Australian system, which is not single-payer, any more than you know shit about the systems in any other nation you talk about. No two countries are alike who have government paying for some or most of their citizens' medical care, including ours, where the government pays for over half of it right now.

You don't know the profit margins for health insurance companies, what percentage of the whole system is non-profit, or what the main drivers of high costs in the U.S. are.

But hey, that's not "knowledge." That's just "information."

If I thought you'd bother, I'd tell you to review the actual history of this legislation. It was dragged desperately across the finish line, bleeding, with flies landing on it. It got through the Supreme Court by one vote from someone who should have known better. I notice you overlooked the 2010 elections.

This country is dying of stupidity and ignorance. I have kids I have to teach to deal with it.

Now, to briefly address the stupidest meme out there for justifying shutting up the opposition. I see it everywhere.

It was passed by both Houses, signed by the President, and confirmed by the Supreme Court. It is the law.


As was the Fugitive Slave Law. So? Bush's election was approved by the Supreme Court. And? The Bush Tax cuts passed and were signed into law. Did Democrats sit down and say, "well, I guess that's that."

Shit, do Democrats faced with legislation they don't like EVER sit down and say, "well, I guess that's that." Democrats who don't get their way in the legislative process fight to the death. Every time.

"Reasonable opposition" to a Democrat means someone who never actually, you know, opposes what the Democrats do.

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