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Yeah, really.

People hung up on the creationist meme do so for religious reasons, not biological ones. You won't find too many atheists or agnostics that reject Darwinism.

Differences in political and economic theory arise not just in lay people, but in those who are recognized as students and authorities of those fields by their colleagues. Your analogy fails, unless you rephrase it as "Anyone who disagrees with me must obviously have something to gain by rejecting the evidence." As always, when you reveal your true attitudes, they succeed more at insulting your audience than instructing it.

You also imply that the issue is a simple one with two mutually exclusive positions, yours, and that of your ignorant, misguided and seditious critics. No, TB. We're talking social sciences here, all issues lie on continuous spectra on which multiple positions are possible. There are no simple clear-cut questions, much less answers.

Some of these spectra are even multi-dimensional, you need more than a straight line to locate an opinion. Sometimes you need multiple axes, planes, volumes. You certainly don't have just two points: TB and the founding fathers vs the assholes and the communists.

"The validity of a concept is not defined by how many people are willing to accept it."

Exactly. The validity of a concept cannot be defined at all. It can only be discussed, and perhaps agreed on. But beware of unanimous agreement. Only zealots and ideologues fall for that.

I'll give you a concrete example. I've expressed before how even though I was a Darwinist, I've always felt that natural selection alone could not fully explain adaptation in the biological world. But it isn't necessary to reject natural selection to make further progress here. Look up biologist Lynn Margulis (Carl Sagan's first wife) who has made suggestions (endosymbiotic theory)that pick up where Darwin left off.

Is she right? Wrong? I don't know. I'm going to need to know a lot more about cell biology before I can even venture an opinion, and even then, that's all it will be, an opinion. Of course, Margulis has been associated with the Gaia Hypothesis, so you would probably insist she has nothing of value to say about anything.

Tom, you have wasted a beautiful mind.

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