"Most of these model and math arguments are angels dancing on the head of a pin. The climate doesn't fit neatly into a machine model any more than a rain forest does."

What wrote has nothing to do with models. I can summary my whole post with the question, "Where does the idea of the Earth's average temperature is about 15 C, come from?

Do you, does anyone have any clue as to what the average temperature of say Greenland or Russia, or Canada is- within an accuracy of say a tenth of a C? Or even 1 C?

"Watch the data. Watch what's happening in the real world. Wait to see what the trends are. Find the baseline sources of the data so you don't have to rely on the media's editing.

Keep in mind that all the sides have axes to grind, and look carefully at the claims, and how they're worded.

And use your common sense. "

I don't know what any of above has to do with my post.

Yes, the press and media are generally speaking, are complete idiots in regard to "global warming" or for that matter anything to do with science generally. Or also anything they write about. And top of this baseline of ignorance, seem to have strong desire to spin [lie] about anything and everything.

And anyone who isn't aware of this is a moron.
Even RL is aware of this. Bowser knows this. Lindy knows this.
What is your point? There isn't anyone on this board that doesn't know this. There no one breathing in America that isn't aware of this.

So, Tom you should lift the seat when you take a piss and don't forget to wipe your ass.