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phil — 7/9/2008 6:40:50 PM (archived)

Good ones, but we do know that such feats as Meade cites in his interview are simple tricks of fast computation and sophisticated 'trick' algorithms, not AI as touted for the last 40 years. Once again, when an AI system demonstrates the navigational and avoidance abilities of a fruit fly, then I'm a believer. Not holding my breath.

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Quantum Mechanics Boondoggles, AI's Total Failure...The Notable Carver Mead Speaks - phil - 7/9/2008 3:56:13 PM
- That critique was so stupid, its an argument against (a particular) Human Intelligence, not a critique of Artificial Intelligence research - Yeti - 7/13/2008 11:02:55 PM
  - PS - Yeti - 7/14/2008 1:19:10 AM
    - re: PS - phil - 7/14/2008 2:44:01 AM
- Fruit fly is extraordinarily bad analogy for "intelligence" - sawyer - 7/13/2008 2:21:00 AM
  - re: Fruit fly is extraordinarily bad analogy for "intelligence" - phil - 7/13/2008 3:49:44 PM
    - Hmmmm, Its not sounding to me like you know what you are talking about - Yeti - 7/13/2008 11:26:42 PM
      - re: Hmmmm, Its not sounding to me like you know what you are talking about - phil - 7/14/2008 2:54:29 AM
        
        re: Hmmmm, Its not sounding to me like you know what you are talking about - Yeti - 7/14/2008 3:13:12 AM
        
        re: Hmmmm, Its not sounding to me like you know what you are talking about - phil - 7/14/2008 3:41:38 PM
        
        re: Hmmmm, Its not sounding to me like you know what you are talking about - Yeti - 7/14/2008 9:12:04 PM
    - It seems that you would not accept the Turing test as being meaningful, then. - alcaray - 7/13/2008 7:29:52 PM
      - re: It seems that you would not accept the Turing test as being meaningful, then. - phil - 7/13/2008 10:21:22 PM
        
        re: It seems that you would not accept the Turing test as being meaningful, then. - Yeti - 7/13/2008 11:28:12 PM
        
        re: It seems that you would not accept the Turing test as being meaningful, then. - phil - 7/14/2008 2:38:34 AM
- re: Quantum Mechanics Boondoggles, AI's Total Failure...The Notable Carver Mead Speaks - JEKing - 7/10/2008 11:52:35 PM
- Fruitflies, I am told, suck at chess. - alcaray - 7/10/2008 9:37:25 PM
  - Not Mead's point at all - phil - 7/11/2008 3:20:22 PM
    - so what? - alcaray - 7/11/2008 5:55:54 PM
      - re: so what? - alcaray - 7/11/2008 6:14:28 PM
        
        re: so what? - phil - 7/11/2008 10:23:26 PM
        
        It was a tangible example of my statement in the prior post: - alcaray - 7/11/2008 10:31:38 PM
        
        re: It was a tangible example of my statement in the prior post: - phil - 7/11/2008 10:32:57 PM
        
        Edison tried hundreds of materials for making lightbulb filaments - Robert - 7/12/2008 5:52:18 PM
        
        re: Edison tried hundreds of materials for making lightbulb filaments - phil - 7/12/2008 7:38:07 PM
        
        be well, then (n/t) - alcaray - 7/11/2008 10:57:20 PM
        
        re: be well, then You too, it's hard to communicate briefly (n/t) - phil - 7/12/2008 1:03:24 AM
- Nervous systems don't work like computers. - TB - 7/10/2008 4:14:44 AM
  - Yikes! Not at all!! - Yeti - 7/13/2008 11:52:39 PM
  - Neural Nets - Socrates II - 7/10/2008 1:58:58 PM
    - re: Neural Nets - JEKing - 7/10/2008 11:22:46 PM
- Yeah, but... - Socrates II - 7/9/2008 6:01:12 PM
  - re: Yeah, but... - phil - 7/9/2008 6:40:50 PM
    - Kurzweil described this as moving the goal posts - pwokenyaw - 7/9/2008 11:44:37 PM
      - moved by whom? - phil - 7/10/2008 7:24:27 PM
        
        okay. Thats just not true. - Yeti - 7/14/2008 12:10:39 AM
    - What if AI becomes just "smart" enough... - Socrates II - 7/9/2008 8:45:12 PM
      - Air Hockey! - Socrates II - 7/10/2008 1:43:35 PM

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