TB, You are not interested in arguing the validity of scientific concepts or opinions.

Your goal is to further a political agenda. There is nothing wrong with that, but it is not the same thing, especially when you constantly claim the first but doggedly pursue the second. And this is not the place to do it anyway. Your eagerness to show us Liberals how mistaken and foolish we are has driven off too many real space enthusiasts already. And to be honest, it has attracted some pretty unsavory people as well.

If you don't like the way this forum has evolved, then you should seriously consider the role you played in making it that way. I know I didn't come here to argue politics. It was that way when I got here. I stumbled into a minefield, almost from the first day. I didn't start the fire.

Once again, I make the offer of a moratorium. When Robert initiates the new ZONE, I suggest we come in politically neutral. We devise new handles (the old timers will still know who's who) and we once again restrict our discussions to issues related to space exploration and related fields. Proper moderation can keep it that way, and defuse and referee borderline cases.

We don't argue sports, or promote our businesses, or preach religion here. The same should go for politics. It does not belong here.