Re: It's not a surprise, and thanks for the compliment.
I keep saying it and no one listens.
Liberalism and conservatism are just words that mean different things to different people.
You are swimming upstream and you are tilting at windmills. Your argument is not with me or with conservatives, it is with those you hold so dearly. Didn't the recent POGO thread mean anything to you? We have met the enemy and he is us.
It's the same for the conservatives. Your reply sounds like a declaration of victory. Don't you realize the hyper-ideals of both sides are toast.
ACLU, LOL,when did we hear from
them last?
It is what it is and the voters mean zip. You are choosing between meaningless words and almost no difference in meaningful deeds.
As a west coast guy you should consider learning Chinese