<The least expensive way to do mine copper may not be the best for the people working there, the people in the area, or the environment in general. Some folks might suggest a more expensive way, or leaving the copper in the earth if it would be too damaging to take it out.

Yeah, when the environmentalists, who are almost to the last person well-off, middle and upper class Americans, stop using cheap copper, they can talk to me about it.

And those extremist "they want to get rid of all of us" statements kind of detract from your arguments, which are often pretty good.

I know what the radical environmentalists have said, and I'm taking them at their word. There are plenty of reasonable environmentalists out there. I don't mention them much, because I don't have a bone to pick with them. This French group, one of the few that has reasoned out how much nuclear power would help the CO2 situation, is one.