I agree that it is a political issue. As a generally conservative guy I believe that scientific research is a primary areas of justified federal involvement and I part with the "conservative" stereotype on many morality issues.

What you say is true regarding private research but with the billions wasted, that doesn't make me feel better about a decision based on what I perceive to be bs morality.

I realize it is a complicated issue and I have no ill will against the moralists that are fighting a rear guard action. It is highly unlikely that they will have their way on this one in the long run.

Regarding the wager with E. :) My position was that you and Buck were unlikely to take a stereotyped "liberal/conservative" position on this issue. It's a close call but both of you seem to have a moderate POV.