Re: When you finally understand there is self-interest on both sides of this issue, the discussion can proceed.

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TB — 4/12/2012 1:03:08 AM (archived)

"I just think one side has more motivation, resources, organization, experience and history with bending public opinion to their purposes. They are much better at it, and certainly more ruthless."

Bingo.

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On engineering, government, and complex fixes - TB - 4/11/2012 7:10:22 PM
- Re: On engineering, government, and complex fixes - BuckGalaxy - 4/12/2012 5:15:50 AM
  - Start here: - TB - 4/12/2012 3:20:15 PM
- Re: On engineering, government, and complex fixes - VelociraptorBlade - 4/12/2012 2:39:33 AM
  - Re: On engineering, government, and complex fixes - ER - 4/12/2012 3:07:20 AM
    - Subtlety can sometimes be a liability here. - TB - 4/12/2012 3:13:04 AM
      - Re: Subtlety can sometimes be a liability here. - ER - 4/12/2012 3:19:35 AM
        
        Re: Subtlety can sometimes be a liability here. - VelociraptorBlade - 4/12/2012 4:27:50 AM
        
        Like this? - podrock - 4/12/2012 12:42:48 PM
        
        The easiest way I found is to go to the YouTube page for a video. - TB - 4/12/2012 2:53:19 PM
        
        One caveat: - TB - 4/12/2012 3:23:58 PM
        
        Re: Subtlety can sometimes be a liability here. - TB - 4/12/2012 3:45:20 AM
        
        Re: Subtlety can sometimes be a liability here. - ER - 4/12/2012 4:21:22 AM
        
        Re: Subtlety can sometimes be a liability here. - TB - 4/12/2012 4:42:51 AM
        
        Squeeeeeek... - TB - 4/12/2012 4:43:44 AM
- Simple answer: Treat law like software. - Robert - 4/11/2012 9:26:31 PM
- Re: On engineering, government, and complex fixes - ER - 4/11/2012 8:41:23 PM
  - Predictable? - TB - 4/11/2012 9:55:16 PM
    - One example of the problem here. - TB - 4/11/2012 9:59:17 PM
      - Re: One example of the problem here. - ER - 4/11/2012 10:47:12 PM
        
        When you finally understand there is self-interest on both sides of this issue, the discussion can proceed. - TB - 4/11/2012 10:58:24 PM
        
        Re: When you finally understand there is self-interest on both sides of this issue, the discussion can proceed. - ER - 4/12/2012 12:52:41 AM
        
        Re: When you finally understand there is self-interest on both sides of this issue, the discussion can proceed. - TB - 4/12/2012 1:03:08 AM
        
        Re: When you finally understand there is self-interest on both sides of this issue, the discussion can proceed. - ER - 4/12/2012 2:36:30 AM
        
        What I hoped you'd notice is that, historically, governments match that description far more than businesses do. - TB - 4/12/2012 3:06:24 AM
        
        Re: What I hoped you'd notice is that, historically, governments match that description far more than businesses do. - ER - 4/12/2012 3:15:43 AM
        
        We weren't discussing socialized medicine. - TB - 4/12/2012 3:43:47 AM
        
        Re: We weren't discussing socialized medicine. - ER - 4/12/2012 4:34:13 AM
        
        We weren't discussing socialized medicine. (n/t) - TB - 4/12/2012 4:40:28 AM

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