I'm not letting the lowest scum on Earth determine my level of morality, my level of behavior. And you say I'm babbling.

Wiser minds than mine have decided that unless the time bomb is ticking you don't torture. And none of the folks they have now seem to be aware of any operational stuff.

I'd bet the warnings we got about attacks on banks in New England, or on air travel on a specific weekend, or any of those other things that Ashcroft seems to be spouting every Thursday (watch for airplanes, scuba divers, trucks, and everything else and call the FBI) comes from tortured people telling 'em anything.

Nope. When you take your marching orders from scum you are scum. No way around that except to be bigger than the bad guys.

Arf (and if we understood why they fell the way they feel we could really do a job on 'em. But that's to hard - easier to criticize the people who suggest we figure them out. ((Now that is sort of a babble.)))