Barry wrote: Yes you are the coward Chris. You went and got yer buddy Herbie Popnecker to help you with your conversations. He only reinforces that the MS people are wiithout substance as are all his answers. I suspect with the 87 billion dollars going to Iraq that yer dream of Men going to Mars is rolling down the toilet at light speed. I suppose you voted for Mr. "billions and billions" didn't you?

Chris writes: Barry I figure by now most readers of this board know you and I pretty well. Folks who is the coward?

Herbie Popnecker is a comic book character from the 1960s. Where did I reference him? You are an intellectual retard or coward, unable to debate the simplest things, all you every do is cut and paste, unrelated BS over and over. If I was the owner of this board I would ban you, Barry! You are a waste of bandwidth!

Yes, well a return to the Moon is out of the question as well. It is non of your business who I voted for. And if you ever actually read this HZ you would easily be able to guess correctly.

Barry wrote: I don't have time to sit and answer all your idiotic questions. I work, don't you?

Chris writes: What a load of Bull Shit! You have the time to hunt up all this BS you cut and paste all the time and you waste bandwidth posting it all over and over again. You have the time to waste in that pursuit, but not in learning and having the brain power to know when you are wrong! You are coward, Barry! Face yourself, coward! Yeah, I have two jobs and still find time to read this and other boards.

Barry wrote: You want to know about me, read my book Mars: The Living Planet or visit the ICAMSR website:

Chris writes: You flatter yourself. I don't want to know anything about you! You are just an old dried shit in the middle of the road!

Barry wrote again with no imagination or thought: Here are your hero's and their very silly legacy:

Life Inside Tall Tin Can in Utah Is All Mars
BLAINE HARDEN . NY Times . 23 march 2002

"They go outside in white canvas space suits trimmed in duct tape. Their helmets are made from plastic light fixtures and white bullet-shaped trash-can lids. In their habitation module (the thing that looks like a silo), they sit with their laptops late into the cold desert night, typing up reports of simulated Mars disasters."

Chris writes: And Blaine Harden is who? What Pulitzer has he won? You ascribe merit to what he writes because it seems to you to ridicule our efforts. A simulation is acting to some this will always seem silly, they aren't particularly smart people. Contrary to your delusions the Mars Society is not rich. We have to be fugal with our funds, the trashcan cost only $10 USD. That is cheap for a backplane for a space helmet. Anyone but you would think us inventive and clever, two things Americans use to be know for. Now with you being such an outspoken jackass we can look forward to being called bitter and stupid in the world.

Barry wrote: Anytime you want to debate with me, all you got to do is hire me. Since the Mars Society charged me once to speak there for $350.00 for about 45 minutes, that is my fee to speak with your type from now on. You want a debate, and waste my time, fine, then pay me, otherwise shut up.

Chris writes: Barry you couldn't debate your way out of a wet paper bag and you know it! This is why you take the tactic of cut and paste. You are a clueless, ignorance, moron! I don't know where you get $350. It doesn't add up correctly. Anyway, lots of conferences cost at least $350 each individual and they don't give you a half hour (which is what you were supposed to have), so you stole someone else's 15 minutes, what a bastard you are! But, nothing you have to offer including that which Nick mentions below is worth even as little as a penny per hour! You don't understand what this BBS is about if you thing paying you to debate is it. You don't get me if you think this will shut me up, pal! I'm capable of debate and learning and don't need your premission to hang around HZ.

Good Morning, tard. Oh and zoot zoot coward!
--Chris Vancil