You understood the point I was trying to make. I wasn't defending PETA or making a judgment, right or wrong, of extremism. I just noted that in some cases, change would occur more slowly without activists.

One thing is clear. We wouldn't be discussing PETA if they hadn't produced that "comic book". Maybe the American Heart Association would get through to more people if they distributed pictures of diseased hearts and open-heart surgery and blamed it on McDonalds.

I skimmed through PETA’s entire fur site trying to see what was so offensive. What I read was probably factual. (The minks that Robert referred to belong to a friend of a co-worker. He's seen them gassed.) I don't think anyone can argue that their cause is unjust. Their methods may be objectionable but as long as what they do is legal...I don't care.

As to your point about the Dem's self-destruction, it is entertaining.