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Bowser — 5/16/2004 1:34:00 PM (archived)

we have to wonder why these people are held completely incommunicado.

The only reason is to torture them.

So far, these people have shown that if they can torture prisoners they will torture prisoners. It is, as the general said, systemic.

Unfortunately, the burden has to be on them do demonstrate they AREN'T, and they haven't.

Arf

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It's all in the name - Nick - 5/15/2004 3:02:17 PM
- I hear there's a war on. - Tom Brosz - 5/15/2004 3:14:20 PM
  - And that's the problem with black-and-white thinking. - Bowser - 5/16/2004 2:02:17 AM
    - So, is holding someone without access to a lawyer also "torture" now? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/16/2004 7:48:01 AM
      - Given the nature, habits and practices of this administration, - Bowser - 5/16/2004 1:34:00 PM
        
        Incommunicado and Guantanamo - Tom Brosz - 5/16/2004 6:54:31 PM
        
        Well, Guantanamo, too. - Bowser - 5/16/2004 8:05:47 PM
        
        There aren't any Americans who have disappeared into night, fog, or the Twilight Zone. - Tom Brosz - 5/17/2004 1:27:07 AM
        
        Prove it! Why else do they insist on the power? - Bowser - 5/17/2004 4:10:43 PM
        
        I don't have to. Any more than I have to "prove" there is no life on Mars. That isn't how reason and logic work. - Tom Brosz - 5/17/2004 5:36:56 PM
  - Didn't we use POWs in forced labor during WWII? - Lee - 5/15/2004 8:03:59 PM
  - funny tom. - Nick - 5/15/2004 3:33:05 PM

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