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Publius — 6/8/2004 1:16:57 PM (archived)

There are times under the actions, responses, and excuses of the present misadministration that I am less than proud of my country.

As a military veteran, recent disclosures of prisoner treatment disgust and dismay me. Not so much because they happened, but because I get the sinking feeling they happened with the approval and complicity and sanction of those all the way up the change of command.

We are a better nation than we present today.

We are a more disciplined military, with a greater sense of responsibility than what passes as acceptable today.

I take hope in the knowledge that our system allows for change and the setbacks of the Bush misadministration can be undone by the people at the ballot box---assuming the ballots aren't programed to ensure a Bush win, and that all the ballots are counted this time.

Publius

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US 'not bound by torture laws' - Derek - 6/8/2004 2:30:10 AM
- Memo Offered Justification for Use of Torture - Jack Herer - 6/8/2004 8:26:37 PM
- A legal opinion... - Larry J - 6/8/2004 6:06:59 PM
  - re: A legal opinion... - Chris Vancil - 6/10/2004 3:33:21 PM
  - Can you say, "stonewall"? - Fox - 6/8/2004 10:59:52 PM
    - Executive Privilege dates back to George Washington - Larry J - 6/9/2004 4:13:30 AM
      - Only one problem with that in this specific instance - Tony - 6/10/2004 1:48:56 PM
        
        Subpoena is the trigger - Fox - 6/10/2004 4:36:19 PM
      - Of course it does - Fox - 6/9/2004 3:41:45 PM
        
        "Torture" has a vague definition - Larry J - 6/9/2004 3:57:07 PM
        
        Nonsense - alcaray - 6/9/2004 4:33:16 PM
        
        The definitions of torture from the treaties themselves - Larry J - 6/9/2004 4:57:27 PM
        
        More weasling - Fox - 6/10/2004 4:08:24 PM
        
        Now that's a stretch - Larry J - 6/10/2004 4:51:04 PM
        
        re: a stretch - Fox - 6/10/2004 5:59:01 PM
        
        Why don't you read the actual memo? - Larry J - 6/10/2004 9:52:47 PM
        
        Sounds specific to me - alcaray - 6/9/2004 5:55:27 PM
  - This is simply an administration that changes the laws to suit their agendas - Lindy - 6/8/2004 7:53:36 PM
    - re: This is simply an administration that changes the laws to suit their agendas - Aaron - 6/8/2004 10:37:51 PM
- What kind of a moron would go to the Pentagon for either legal or moral advice? (n/t) - alcaray - 6/8/2004 4:20:46 PM
  - re: Hum...it would seem the senior JAG officers refused to give Bush what he wanted and then he asked GOP cronies for "advice"...there is more than one memo...As I said before...Bush is AMORAL. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 6/10/2004 3:22:29 PM
- What's wrong with this picture?..... - Publius - 6/8/2004 1:16:57 PM
- And Cheney/bush is prosecuting a few ENLISTED personnel. - Bowser - 6/8/2004 3:19:04 AM

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