(And stop the bluster. It doesn't become anyone, and only impresses the ebs, ebys, mayers, etc. Doesn't work on adults.)
So, let's look at who does. You'll note that at least 2/3rds of them are caused by US military action. And all you got is bluster and baloney, "methodology". Neocons and True Believers are standing knee-deep in blood, insisting that 500 pound bombs in an urban environment aren't WMDs, that the weaponry fired by the US is all magic.
Try this.
Civilians reported killed by military intervention in Iraq
Min Max
13182 15248
So let's go here. The Iraqi Ministry of Health.
According to the ministry, the interim Iraqi government recorded 3,487 Iraqi deaths in 15 of the country's 18 provinces from April 5 - when the ministry began compiling the data - until Sept. 19. Of those, 328 were women and children. Another 13,720 Iraqis were injured, the ministry said.
While most of the dead are believed to be civilians, the data include an unknown number of police and Iraqi national guardsmen. Many Iraqi deaths, especially of insurgents, are never reported, so the actual number of Iraqis killed in fighting could be significantly higher.
Arf (He's locked in, Bow, can't see anything else. Yeah, been there on occasion myself. And I was wrong, too.)
Current Events » in reply to That number is still bullshit, Bowser. And I'm tired of having to point it out again and again.
Well, the military is no source. - “We don’t do body counts†- General Tommy Franks.
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- If you want to be a good guy, you have to be better than the badguys.
- Maybe there is a good reason
- Your friends the Palestinians and Cubans might be able to help you learn the difference.
- You are aware that this entire "controversy" is largely anecdotal?
- They're "disappeared", Tom. "Disappeared". For a reason.
- I can see a number of valid reasons that you wouldn't want to acknowledge the capture of a terrorist.
- They're "disappeared", Tom. "Disappeared". For a reason.
- Wrong: To WIN a war against terrorists, you must be just as mean as your opponents. You must do whatever they do, only do it first and do it better. The only rule is "there are no rules". (n/t)
- re: A clue: terrorist don't wear red armbands. I want us to remain as a country long after al Quede is fading memory. What you propose will make us cease to exist long before they do. (n/t)
- How is that different from Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, Osama bin Laden, Idi Amin, etc?
- Simple: We do to the terrorists what they do to their victims. Not just to random people, but to the terrorists themselves. I hope that you understand now.
- We Are
- Moral imbeciles do not understand the difference between killing terrorists and killing innocents.
- You really don't understand that you contradict yourself in the two posts you have made to this thread, do you? (n/t)
- Clarification. You must be as mean to the terrorists as they are to the innocent. I did NOT mean to attack innocents. Got it? (n/t)
- Got it. No justice, no rule of law, no mercy. Just two sets of cutthroats going after each other.
- Clarification. You must be as mean to the terrorists as they are to the innocent. I did NOT mean to attack innocents. Got it? (n/t)
- You really don't understand that you contradict yourself in the two posts you have made to this thread, do you? (n/t)
- Moral imbeciles do not understand the difference between killing terrorists and killing innocents.