Poverty ID

DL — 4/18/2005 12:10:50 AM (archived)

I think is just a red herring (not of your making, not getting on you). Frankly, (at least in my opinion) poverty is definitionally a state where one has only enough or not enough for the essentials. Food, Clothing, Utilities, Housing- that pretty much covers the essentials.

Also notice that it is fair also to the rich- who can buy premium Food, Clothing, Utilites and housing and also not pay taxes.

The solution Nick posts is very interesting. A way of working Welfare directly into the tax system... I'm not sure what I'd think of it because I am new to the idea.

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US Tax Code - phil - 4/13/2005 4:48:03 PM
- Consumption tax drawback - RobVG - 4/16/2005 4:14:44 PM
  - Maybe for a change governments could cut back on non-essential programs... (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/17/2005 4:11:45 AM
    - The real "welfare Cadillac" is in the corporate garage." (n/t) - Bowser - 4/19/2005 8:00:47 AM
    - Define "non-essential". - Mary Anne - 4/17/2005 7:02:55 PM
      - re: Define "non-essential". - Tom Brosz - 4/18/2005 1:15:24 AM
      - re: Define "non-essential". - gbaikie - 4/18/2005 1:14:54 AM
- The wealthy in this country, have most of the money. - alcaray - 4/13/2005 8:56:53 PM
  - No S*** Sherlock - p - 4/16/2005 11:24:47 PM
- With a consumption tax.... - Tony - 4/13/2005 7:02:56 PM
  - You mean... We'd have to actually.... ENFORCE border security? - DL - 4/13/2005 7:58:14 PM
    - re: You mean... We'd have to actually.... ENFORCE border security? - phil - 4/13/2005 8:19:02 PM
      - That might work, but here comes the paperwork again. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/14/2005 5:52:22 AM
        
        An at-the-register value added tax would be virtually paper-work free - DL - 4/14/2005 2:46:34 PM
        
        re: value added tax - Tom Brosz - 4/16/2005 7:12:15 AM
        
        Poverty ID - DL - 4/18/2005 12:10:50 AM
        
        Solution: Tax everything and pay the poor - Nick Hoffman - 4/17/2005 11:22:30 AM
        
        fascinating .. - Daniel - 4/19/2005 5:16:16 AM
        
        I haven't really worked it out but I think you might have a Perpetual Motion Machine on your hands. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/18/2005 1:18:07 AM
        
        No, a 26% consumption tax raises sufficient revenue (n/t) - p - 4/18/2005 9:06:11 PM
        
        Sounds like the productive citizens end up taking it in the shorts again. - Tom Brosz - 4/20/2005 4:53:36 AM
        
        Not productive - Consumptive - Nick Hoffman - 4/20/2005 12:54:07 PM
        
        re: The problem with all these "consumption tax" and "point of sale tax" scheems is that they fail to tax barter transactions. - Scott Evil - 4/21/2005 11:14:29 PM
        
        re: The problem with all these "consumption tax" and "point of sale tax" scheems is that they fail to tax barter transactions. - p - 4/22/2005 3:17:01 AM
        
        re: Not productive - Tom Brosz - 4/21/2005 7:21:23 AM
        
        Bingo! (n/t) - phil - 4/21/2005 1:47:48 AM
        
        No perpetual motion. - Nick Hoffman - 4/18/2005 9:52:13 AM
        
        different minimum standards of living in different areas - SDG - 4/19/2005 2:31:26 PM
        
        In effect that's what Fair Tax proposes - phil - 4/17/2005 4:27:44 PM

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